Idea: Save Amarok 1.4

Various KDE 1.-4. Improvements

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Hi, how about saving the Amaork 1.4X Project from being destroyed by Amarok 2.X.
I'm not a programmer but I know that there are a thousand reasons why Amarok 1.4 is much better than version 2.

I also don't think that Amarok 2 is developing in the right direction.

Who would be willing and able to continue developing Amarok 1.4 starting from the given source code...

Or are there already plans in that direction?


EDIT: NO NEED ANYMORE: USE CLEMENTINE. IT ALSO INLCUDES MOODBARS NOW! www.clementine-player.org

It looks like Amarok 1.4 but much better. With Moodbar-Support and music-webservice-integration.

Best music player out there!

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stalin2000

4 years ago

Clementine!

www.clementine-player.org

It looks like Amarok 1.4 but much better. With Moodbar-Support and music-webservice-integration.

Best music player out there!

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entw

4 years ago

> much better

No!

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entw

4 years ago

> much better

No!

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prizident

6 years ago

I'm using trinity and am pretty happy about it

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stalin2000

8 years ago

Hi, there is no need to save Amarok anymore. It has already been forked.

The new name is pana:

http://pana.bunnies.net/

Have fun with it :)

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lunamystry

8 years ago

can't the 1.4x features be included in 2.x? Something like shuffle playlist. Can't that just be added?

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LoriQuaid

9 years ago

I switched from gnome to kde largely because I so enjoyed using amarok. The most important feature it had for me was the ability to pop out the micro sd card from my phone and have amarok recognize it as a music device. I could configure where I wanted amarok to put my music on my phone card, etc. Now I can't do that. I also loved having it load the music meta-data into my postgreSQL database, where I could run queries and look at the data myself. Now it uses an embeded database which I can't inspect. I also dislike the middle display column.

I've actually switched over to rhythm box now because it is better at getting music over to my phone's micro sd card.

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droetker

9 years ago

"I also loved having it load the music meta-data into my postgreSQL database, where I could run queries and look at the data myself. Now it uses an embeded database which I can't inspect."
Not true, it can use external databases as well. Look into the config.

"I also dislike the middle display column."
Just switch it off (the middle column). That easy.

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alcionestarcx

9 years ago

Go and checkout Amarok 2.2 beta 1. Is that simple.

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arch0njw

9 years ago

The general response to issues I have filed for Amarok 2 basically amounts saying that it is still a work in progress. That is particularly evident with responses like "trunk in SVN is fine". That's nice, but today it's fine, tomorrow it might not be. Having people pull from SVN in order to finally find a stable, feature-functional version of the software is a bad approach.

Amarok 1.4.x was *stable*.
It worked great.
It had all the features I wanted.

I will take the step forwards to the next version when it isn't a step backwards feature wise. I still use Amarok 1.4.10 for that reason, and don't mind tolerating the Qt 1.3 stuff so I can keep the software that "works properly" (IMO).

As to the questions about "what is missing" -- do a feature comparison between the two. That will answer the question.

Amarok 2 has had some GREAT steps forward. But it is not yet sufficiently mature enough to replace 1.4.x.

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bugmenot1234

9 years ago

I have to say that there are some facts that I don't like in amarok 2 at the moment:
- I hate the play/pause/next buttons style. just keep them separated!
- podcast tab: no transfert to ipod (have to go to the files-tab), no "update in podcast x" (have to open them all to see where something changed)

but it plays my music so I'll stick to it :)

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google01103

9 years ago

"play/pause/next buttons" option to change in svn so they're no all mushed together called "main toolbar ng"

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bugmenot1234

9 years ago

nice! Once KDE 4.3 is out I'll switch to amarok svn! thanks for the info

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google01103

9 years ago

to keep/fork/continue 1.4 means retaining qt3 and personally I'm hoping for a qt4 only desktop

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stalin2000

9 years ago

Ok nobody would complain if it was qt4 and had the following functionality:

1. Full functionality of 1.4
2. Possibility to switch the program layout to "1.4-style" without that stupid coulumn in the middle!!

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google01103

9 years ago

re: the layout - I would suggest you find the video of 2.2 that's out there and see how the layout is now dynamic as how the parts can be laid out

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Laerte

9 years ago

Plus, ppl will have to mantain KDE 3 kdelibs, as Amarok depends on that too.

Personally, I miss nothing from 1.4 series, and I'm very happy with 2.1.

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SputnikRock

9 years ago

Amarok 1.4 is still available. - And I currently use it still under KDE 4.3!

But I don't think it is a good idea to fork it. - It is a better idea to focus the power on Amarok2 until the program becomes a real successor of Amarok 1.

Voted for "bad idea", sorry!

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stalin2000

9 years ago

... yes but what does focusing help if the DIRECTION is wrong and the target User is the DAU??

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SputnikRock

9 years ago

please explain what you exactly mean with "wrong direction"... It is very vague...

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stalin2000

9 years ago

Yes, in my opinion Amarok 1.4 has the paradigm of a program that can do anything. Full functionality, full opportunities.
Amarok 2 has the paradigm of a "easy to use" program, which is quite limited in it's functionality (I do not believe that all the fuctions of amarok 1.4 will ever be implemented)
Amarok2 is also strongly oriented on Itunes, which is a very complicated, very dumb program (not possible to ad things to playlist, while playing etc.)

The Amarok 2 Programers should be ashamed of themselves to bring out a program with a higher number, which can't even do half the things the former program could do. The real name for Amarok 2 should be Amarok 0.9... Be honest with the numbers!!

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thomas12777

9 years ago

- playlist layout is more flexible then in 1.4 - and still improving
- you can relayout the UI including getting rid of the plasma view in the center
- lacking visualization is a lack in ponon and to be fixed by a GSoC project (hopefully...)
- lousy treeview speed is a general issue in the Oxygen style inherited from the /windows/ Qt style...
- thanks to lubos, libplasma doesn't increase the RAM usage of an app by ~10 megs on nvidia systems anymore
- remains the debatable semi-skinnable svg theme - well, seems mark changed his mind on the flexible layout, thus this will likely vanish as well ;-P

any specific reason to keep amarok 1.4?

<advert>meanwhile, why not try bespin to hack amarok?</advert>

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SputnikRock

9 years ago

There are. Amarok 1.4 still has lots of more essential features, while Amarok 2 has some nice features that are easy to miss...

One of the latest inventions of Amarok 1 has been "tagging". It is not perfect - but I will use Amarok 1 until tagging is at least fully supportet by Amarok2! - It is a different level of organisation with tags! - I do not want to miss it!

... there are more things...

Several of them are plugin-solutions for amarok 1. One of them is the best way to produce CD-Covers for Mix-CDs under Linux. - I don't want to loose that!!! - And lots more...

It is still a very, very long way for a really good Amarok2. - Let's talk about again in 2 years maybe!!

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thomas12777

9 years ago

afaik tagging will rely on nepomuk - once it's done =P

at least trunk supports multilevel playlist sorting (e.g. artist -> album -> track number -> title)

unfortunately i cannot say anything about that mix cover thing - doesn't impact my musical taste, i guess (and i seriously more or less give a sh... on covers as well ;-)

i agree that repeat/shuffle togglers would make a lot of sense in the bar below the playlist or the player area - i'll try to convince someone =D

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stalin2000

9 years ago

.. I wrote this to the amarok2 developers...:

How can you turn a almost perfect program into a terrible Itunes-clone?
The first thing which is really bad is this weird column in the center of the window, one cannot get rid of. Then there are a thousand functions missing.

Please take into account what what Linux-users want and please don't aim at the dumbest users on earth as the target group for this program.

Also have a look at this comment:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1096880&page=7

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