Fri13 Fri13 Lahti, Finland

Grass v2

Wallpaper Other Sep 05 2010
Score 63%
37 Dislikes

Burner (fire edition)

K3b Themes Aug 26 2010
Score 81%
19 Dislikes

Burner (wall edition)

K3b Themes Aug 26 2010
Score 68%
32 Dislikes

Ubuntu heroes

Wallpapers Ubuntu Nov 23 2009
Score 52%
48 Dislikes

Gray and Plain

QtCurve Oct 20 2009
Score 60%
40 Dislikes
Cool Effect 0.0.1 Kwin Effects
Score 68%
32 Dislikes
Mar 07 2014
And what does this effect do?
No screenshot and no description of the functionality and the name is lame.

Mar 03 2014
Skanlite 2.0.1 Graphics
Score 73%
27 Dislikes
Oct 31 2016
Just install "grive" what allows you to sync specific directory with Google Drive and then you have it.

I use that for everything what I want to sync with smartphone and netbook. I just copy files to that directory. Sep 24 2012
Virus Recordings Wallpaper Other
Score 42%
58 Dislikes
Dec 12 2001

1) User Interface (UI) is not just software, that groups belongs all hardware as well, like keyboard, mouse and display. Every human interaction with the device is part of the user interface. Lights, buttons, switches, keys, wheels, resolution, colors, shapes, materials...
The Graphical or Text oriented user interface generated with software is half of the UI while the hardware is other half.

2) Operating System does not have a user interface. It is other softwares job to generate the graphical or textual user interface. Operating Systems task is to operate the resources so all other software can work and lease those resoures.

Feb 19 2012
iKons 0.6 for KDE2/3 0.6 Individual Icons/-sets
Score 74%
26 Dislikes
Mar 02 2002
Quote:i cant tell if you're trying to be funny, or if you really do have such a wacko take of the situation. that^s probably just trolling, but incase it's not, i shall respond.

I am dead serious about history and technological facts. People who dont know OS history and OS architectures thinks it is trolling, joking or something else.

Quote:linus made a kernel, he and some others might call it an opperating system, but i think the majority of us call an opperating system the combination of all the parts of the... operating system. not just the kernel.

Majority does not know technology, they dont even know the OS history. Majority does not even know that Linux is a monolithic kernel. Majority does not even know what is a web browser. It is just plain stupid to say "Majority knows" and keep it as a argument point, while a majority does not have a fainthest idea what operating system by technology way is. They only have a ideas what marketing has given them. Majority idea is what some clever marketing guys invented to sell their product instead competitors and others started to compete with same manner.

Are you one of those who would agree that it is OK if now someone would go and start selling to Amazon Jungle People a car, saying that it is a engine and its parts are rear mirrors, seats, wheels, all of it. And then those AJP would come to modern civilization where people are driving and manufacturing those cars and they say "No, it is not a car, but a engine what you are driving"? Which one would be correct, a manufacturers who would base things to technology history and development, or those who does not have a clue how the technology works?

Right now, majority believes that car is the engine. That people drive a engine and they sit inside a engine and then buy a engine.
While they dont have a idea that the engine is under the hood and that the whole thing is a *car*.
Now, that is the situation on computer markets. Majority does not know that Linux kernel is a whole operating system. They believe that what they see on screen is the operating system. They believe that the marketing brand is a name of their used operating system.

Quote:it is the GNU opperating system. and the Linux Kernel. and the HURD kernel ~ which itself is broken up into smaller components, including a micro kernel. ... and you get the BSD opperating system, and it uses the BSD kernel.

There is no GNU operating system. That is a myth... a twisted myth of twisted illusion. There neither is a HURD kernel, that is myth and twisted lie as well. As HURD is not a kernel. It is a whole operating system whats architecture is server-client. If HURD would be a kernel, it first should need to be a monolithic. And if it would be a monolithic kernel, then it would be a operating system. While we have two totally different architectures for operating system, the definition what is what is not same for both. Other has a microkernel, other does not. Other is monolithic (still being modular in binary level) while other is bunch of servers operated by microkernel (modular by architecture and binary level).

Quote:Linux, or whatever kernel you use, is almost certainly only a very small portion of your complete opperating system.

Linux is not a microkernel. Linux kernel is whole operating system. Not a small portion. Linux would be a small portion of operating system if Linux would be a microkernel like Mach, what is microkernel what is used in HURD operating system.
BSD were a monolithic operating system. It wasn forked to multiple different OS's. Example of FreeBSD is a monolithic operating system same way as is Linux. But the problem what even there is that people mistake the operating system and distribution names as both carries the same names, even that there are multiple distributions from the FreeBSD, like FreeBSD and PC-BSD.

Quote:just because we so often use the word "linux" as shorthand for GNU|Linux, doesnt really mean the opperating system is called linux, in a strict sense.

Ah, that stupid argument from "Oh it is so hard to say so we just call it as Linux OK?". No, the operating system name is Linux. Linux and Linux kernel does not mean different things. There is one software, a single project what is called as Linux. That is the name of the operating system. When a majority of people are ignorance and lazy to use correct names and definition, it is not a valid argument to use them as fact.
With same argument, we could say that Internet Explorer (IE) is the Internet. Because for majority it was so. They didn't open a IE but they opened internet.
Majority thinks that PC means Windows (or that PC is synonym for personal computer). So it must be so that there is no PC without Windows, right?
Just because majority are ignorant and lazy to know that Internet and WWW are two totaly separate technologies, it does not make those beliefes as facts. Majority does not know that WWW use Internet. And that Internet is just global network and specific network protocols (what operating system handles, like TCP/IP) what other higher level technologies (like WWW, what use application protocols what are not part of the operating system) use.

Quote:to further clarify the point, about gnu or bsd being the name of the opperating system and the words linux and hurd being the kernels, my favorite main distro is gentoo. i could go for gentoo with a hurd, bsd, or linux kernel. or even some others (but lets not confuse things further).
i could do so with all the same stuff to interface with, just a different kernel (and a few compatibility changes). same opperating system install, different kernels.

You can swap operating system but you need to reboot for that. You can swap your text editor but you can do that on the fly with just copying text from editor to other. Gentoo is just a distribution. It is a collection of software, distributed by specific means by specific goal in mind by group of people for other people. The same software comes "in many packagages". When you install HURD and you add it to your bootloader and you reboot your computer and you select HURD instead Linux, you start your system with different operating system. No, you didn't change kernel (HURD is not kernel but operating system with Server-Client architecture and its microkernel is Mach) but OS. If system software is ported to operating system in use or it is otherwise compatible, you can run your chosen software as nothing has changed. The low level change does not necessery affect at all your higher level software or even your hardware, as long as the OS has support for your hardware and the middleware software.

Quote:kernel != opperating system.


Kernel == Operating System
Microkernel != Kernel
Microkernel != Operating System

Quote:they're not synonymous.
... unless you're the unique breed of "kernel developer". ;p

Why I should care more what you and majority thinks about technology and history when you are all ignorant?
Should we re-write OS histories and re-invent technologies how operating systems works so they would apply to majority ideas of "operating system" as marketing people want to sell it?

Quote:if you want to put this to the test further, try running your "opperating system" without everything but the kernel, and see how well the system opperatates. :P XD ;D

The system operates just fine, problem is just that I dont then have programs (and what those programs needs) to solve my problems.
The operating system is not system what you operate. It is a software what operates the hardware and the software. Operating system is between hardware and all other software. It operates both and all. The hardware and other software are responsible to do a different jobs for user and offer a user interfaces for them. Example. A keyboard is not part of your CPU. Your monitor is not part of your RAM. A bash is not part of operating system. A system programs like cp, ls, mv... are not part of bash. A glibc or gcc are not part of operating system. They dont work without operating system. You can always run just the operating system, but you dont do anything with just it. You need always something else to do your work. You need programs, programs needs libraries, programs needs other programs. And piece by piece, you have very complex system what is 50% of hardware and 50% of software. And between them, is software what operates both of them.
You don't do anything with just a microkernel. It is just a part of operating system. But you need the servers (OS servers, not system services) what includes rest of the operating system. Example you can not get GCC, glibc and bash (etc) run with just microkernel like Mach (what is in HURD). Because you dont have filesystems, memory management, process management, network protocols and so on, what are located on servers separated from microkernel for modular structure on architecture level.

You just have false beliefe that "Operating System" is system what YOU operate. That Operating System is a system what you use directly to browse WWW clicking images and URL's, edit text using text editor, changing what music plays by clicking track on playlist.... Those are totally different softwares and involves lots of different kind softwares and hardware to work together making lots of mathematical calculations and all operated by the small specific software - a operating system, like Linux, HURD, Minix, FreeBSD, NT...

Or should I just make a argument with your same logic.... Pull CPU off from its socket on motherboard and try running your "operating system" and see how well the system operates? :-D
By your logic, the CPU is part of your operating system.
And if going even further with your argumental logic, pull a power plug from wall and try running your "operating system" and see how well the system operates? :-D
And lets cut the chase... Lets shutdown the power plant and then try to use that your "operating system" and you see how well the system operates :-D
As by your logic, the power plant is part of your operating system. Without it, your "operating system" does not work. Was it then a powerplant, power plug, CPU or Linux kernel, your "operating system" would cease to work. So they definetely are part of your "operating system".

Operating System is not there to be used, it is there to run other software on the different kind hardware with easy development. That is the only purpose for operating system to exist. Every software and hardware has their purpose to exist. And like web browser is one software among thousands on your computer, as is operating system just one software among those same thousands. They both just have totally different purposes and the other needs the other one, but that one does not need the other (Your computer needs that power plug and it needs power plant, but the power plant does not need your power plug or computer).

Quote:so anyways, when i said gnu, i didnt mean hurd, as you seemed to interpret it. i meant gnu. as in GNU|Linux, *AND* GNU|HURD, and whatever else is on the go too. it was a conscious decision to use the word gnu alone, because not all distros i had used, used the linux kernel. some used hurd, some used xen, and i think there were even a few that used other stuff too... after about 300 you kinda start to loose track of it all.

GNU is a project, if you want to talk about GNU's (GNU project own) operating system, it is a HURD. Linux is not part of GNU project.

Quote:i hope that makes sense to you now, you probable jester you. ^_^

You are just running around propaganda and marketing loops without any sense or logic with computer science and technology what is used to get computer work to solve different problems.

amen for the freedom to interchange ALL components of our free software opperating systems. ... on that note, oh for more alternatives to gcc and xorg. ;D

The GPL is a great license. GCC is nice compiler. And Xorg (what is not part of GNU project) is nice windowing system.
But do not mistake the ethics of Free Software to technology. Or ideas that "because I need compiler and if I use GCC it means it is part of GNU hence name GNU/" or because if something is licensed with GPL, it would become a member of GNU project....
Computer technology is science. It is pure science how they work by mathematical means. They are pure electronicy science how a signals are used to make a mathematical calculations in binary system. How 1's and 0's, a ON or OFF makes computer work. How a pressing a single key on keyboard generates a signal what is understood to be specific kind and how operating system takes that input and sends that to programs to run different algorithms what returns as input to OS what then sends it as output to other round and after many loops, that single input gets as output to computer screen as a letter, what is group of pixels in specific RGB color codes. And everything happens so quickly, that it is like magick in black box.

GNU/Linux is a fat lie. Saying that Linux (aka Linux kernel) as means else than a monolithic operating system, is a lie.
Freedom can not be build base of fat lie. No one can be free, if their freedom is based to lie. They live in illusion of freedom, as they dont have the truth to make correct choices for their lifes and others lifes.
Protecting a lie, is not protecing a freedom.
Feb 16 2012
"i've used over 400 distinct .iso of gnu operating systems (or bsd, and a few others dotted around)."

There isn't over 400 distributions of HURD operating system... Only a few and they don't even work well as HURD isn't working operating system.

GNU would have their own operating system working if Linus would not have started Linux what gathered OS developers around it.

Even that GNU project maintains/develops great system programs, system utilities and many application programs and libraries, they just have failed with HURD operating system and good luck is that we have Linux to take its place. Feb 05 2012
It is not just so simple to repackage a DEB to other package for most of the times. It works sometimes but it is very dirty hack and cause lots of problems as the software was not compiled specifically for that system where it was repackaged.

Different distributions store files to different paths and has different ways to link files.
Not to mention about different architectures and package system technicality how to track files and many other technical functions.

Even a Canonical has made many changes to Ubuntu so not all Debian packages from Testing work in it.
And when it comes to get a pre-compiled DEB package work with RPM or any other package system distribution, it is same thing as trying to get a Volvo Truck engine to Honda Civic. Very dirty hack.

Feb 05 2012
What you are saying, is that everyone should just shut their mouth if they can not speak or write perfectly....

You do have a point, but same time you don't understand what you are saying.

It is important to use a correct words (terms, definitions etc) but it is even more important that you are willing to learn and express your own opinions, toughs, feelings and ideas without someone coming "HEY, YOU DIDN'T SPELL THAT WORD CORRECTLY SO GET THE ***** OUT OF HERE!"

It is just nitpicking that if someone types/says few words wrong. Totally different thing is if someone use wrong words/definitions/terms. Like someone says "Memory" instead "HDD/SDD" while speaking where to store data. Or if someone mentions "heart" while meaning liver.

But if someone types wrong correct words... it is not serious.

The context is more important than the skill to write or speak correctly, especially when using a foreign language.

Those who speaks their own language, does understand what a tourist or other foreign person means when just use correct words. The sentence order or some missing words does not (usually) cause problems.

Like if someone come and says "I help need car gas the road"... It is easy to understand that person needs to get gas for his car on the road.
Instead nitpicking about words order or missing words, the person could just help. Feb 05 2012
It is same thing as making closed source software when someone distributes only a DEB package.

It is not even a respectful action toward Open Source community.

IF wanted to do correctly at least one thing, then offer just the source so everyone can compile their own package for their system. And if they don't know how, then they can ask someone else to do it for them.

DEB isn't even a package for Linux Standard Base (LSB) but RPM is. If wanted to do THAT correctly, then RPM is only way to go, not a DEB.

But best thing is... give the source code and problem is solved.
Feb 05 2012
Icon Tasks 0.9.2 Plasma 4 Widgets
Score 94%
6 Dislikes
Nov 10 2011
Two functions should be possible be set by user.

1) Close task with middle mouse button
2) Close task with right mouse button

Nov 06 2011
Flouressence KDE 3 Color Schemes
Score 47%
53 Dislikes
Oct 14 2001
Quote:I love multiple wallpaper on multiple desktop, with scroll button.

So do I, thats why I use KDE SC 4.6

Quote:Q love Quicklauncher,and all the quick drag and drop functions.

So do I, thats why I use KDE SC 4.6

Quote:I love superkaramba with all the simple functions.

I did not like superkaramba as it did not have good themes. But superkaramba applets can be ran by Plasma Desktop, so there is no reason to not use KDE SC 4

Quote:I have a top computer but kde4 is so slow.... The menu is so unperspicuity.

Neither all my computers are such. My most "powerfull" is X2 4000+ with 4GB RAM. KDE SC 4 feels snappier than KDE 3.5.10 did when last time tested. I have many 1.2-1.5Ghz Pentium 4/AMD Duron computers with 512-768 RAM and KDE SC 4 just flies on them as well.

Quote:Kde4 have many spectacular visual effect, but for what?

To make computer usage faster, simpler and more intuitive. Shadows under window is huge bonus, Desktop Grid + Presentation is required feature for multidesktop system. Presentation effect is required if wanting to do multiple window operations (example document writing with 5 sources open)

Quote:During work, after 10 min, I shot down all effect, since too slow, and too embarrassing (or too ugly).
I love all the Ctrl+scroll functions,on kde3.5, and all the clocks....

What did Ctrl+Scroll do and on what?

Quote:Résumé: not everyone have a hyperspace computer, and new distros, with kde, must
have alternative for kde3.5 AND kde4.

Well, I dont know what is counted as "hyperspace computer", but 1.2Ghz AMD Duron, 512 RAM and GF5 card with 19" LCD display is very old already and KDE SC is snappy. Or how about 7 years old laptops? Very old already.

It depends a lot about distribution what you choose, example Kubuntu is as slow as Ubuntu is, not well compiled and packaged (or any other variant of it). Debian is fast, but Slackware and Arch just flies.
I would never again go back to KDE 3.5.x series, it was great at that time. But KDE SC has gone much further ahead from it since 4.2 release and that is 2 years ago...

May 15 2011
Got the look? Wallpaper Other
Score 47%
53 Dislikes
Dec 15 2001
There is what takes ideas and others for suggestion. But I dont think that is still correct place to talk there as it is about other than just KDE SC or KDE (community).

So it should be done here if there is no mailinglist to this. May 15 2011
I would make few big changes to site format:

1. Sidepanels should be brought up and make somekind effor that "search" is easy to find (top right corner like old version). Sides could be on darker "bars" so middle part is for content.

2. Tagging (Max 3) for content by author and by registered users from preadded list (max 5)

3. New voting system (there is own group for that) what would need to tell more accurated the opinions. And maybe a new system next to existing ones (rating + downloads) would be "timeline" what user could use as search criteria (last 24h, 7d, 30d, 3m, 6m, 12m) as addon for rating + downloads. "Show most downloads from last 30 days" or "Show best rating from last 24h".

4. No social networks are forced.
For some people the google, facebook or openID etc would be nice but I like the own registration and I dont want to register to any other service to get using just this or keep this "out" of my other identities.

5. Small visual tweaks. Site banners from KDE SC, GNOME, XFCE etc. So site is easy to notice to belong to specific desktop / technology (Qt etc).

I would say that base of the sites are in great shape but needs just littlebit "moderization" May 10 2011
Score 63%
37 Dislikes
Feb 18 2011
Just awesome!

I have missed the Domination style and I have loved the QtCurve style configration possibilities and this one really is great!

Kudos for you by making KDE SC look great after great Oxygen style!

You managed to get still a nice copy of already unique Domination KDE style to KDE SC 4.6 to be something different than what most copy-cats tries to do always copying other desktop environments! Mar 10 2011
Ksplash = Return to Castle Wolfenstein .002 KDE 3.x Splash Screens
Score 49%
51 Dislikes
Nov 19 2001
But it is still possible to add a link to third party file sharing site what includes the deb.

Thats why I would rip off the feature to have those files linked to third party sites. Feb 18 2011
I believe we should take hard stand towards script kiddies and protect the "Windows-like" installation.

The Linux systems has been secure for decades because we have package systems in use. What means that user use package manager to download packages from secure package repositories and only from them.

Now the security line is compromised. By two reasons.

1) People are suggested to add unofficial package repositories (Example canonical PPA'a!)

2) People are suggested to download and install packages from websites.

What is needed to do. Is to tell every distributor that they should not support or anyway suggest to use third party repositories (this includes a lot Canonicals stupid actions).

And then get rid of the possibility to get pre-compiled packages from community sites, like these.

People should not be possible to even post such here. Everything what here is, should be only possible to be a secure from script kiddies. Of course anyone can find a security flaw in picture viewer/browser and send a JPEG/PNG image what triggers it. But when allowing to download anything what can have scripts, it is already a like searching problems.

We can make technically the software system secure, but we can not make the user account secure against user own stupidity. When being less skilled (like today most who start using distros like openSUSE, Mandriva or Ubuntu), they are more targeted by social attacks.
Feb 18 2011
Smooth Tasks wip-2010-11-06 Plasma 4 Widgets
Score 93%
7 Dislikes
Nov 05 2010
I have never used pager widget separately on desktop and dragging tasks there as it is much easier to use grid desktop for that.

And thats why the "close the task" by dragging from taskpanel would be good optional configuration and it would feel natural. (why Apple even made that function to dock to remove icons from it as *puff*). Dec 08 2010
I tried to find out the linked site where to place wishes but I could not find it so I place it now here.

I have setup where I dont have any buttons in window decoration (close, maximize, minimize etc) but I manage the windows with Alt+MB1/MB2 and from smooth task itself (click to minimize) and from KWin active screen edges (maximize/50% maximize).

The only problem is currently the way to close the window. As it only really has two ways:

1) Middle click the task (what I use)
2) Right click the task and selecting "close"

(yes, there are shortcuts like Alt+F4 etc to do it but they are harder).

One great functionality in smoothtask (etc) is that it is very easy to group or move tasks just by dragging them.

So my wish is to make it even simpler to close the window by simply dragging it up.

Think about same way as users remove objects from Mac OS X dock and it disappears with puff.

But just simply dragging a task away from the panel and it would get closed.

This way users could get the great power manage tasks from smooth tasks as well. Nov 24 2010
No Smoke! Wallpaper Other
Score 42%
58 Dislikes
Sep 27 2001
NT is not the kernel.
NT is the operating system
The NT is Server-Client architectured operating system what use un-named microkernel.

As for repeat, the microkernel what is in NT, does not have a name but just version number. Once one NT developer told me how to find it out but I do not anymore remember how (no, it is not the ver command) . Dec 01 2010
NT is the operating system (server-client architecture) and the "7" is the Windows 7 what is the software system and it includes the NT operating syste, all the system programs and libraries. And all other softwares like Aero, IE, Media Center, WMP, mediafiles, etc.

If the Windows 7 is the car, the NT is the car engine. And the car engine is always the operating system.

You can swap the engine to other cars if wanted, but it does not morph the engine to other engine. Even that if you take one engine from BMW and you place it to Mercedes-benz.

To get the car engine analogies to better context. You need to think that the car engine is the component what rules what kind steering wheels, gear sticks, seats, mirrors you can have. What kind car body you can use. What roads you can use, what gasoline stations you can use. Do you get the engine hood open or not. Can you modify the engine or even the car at all. The engine would even rule that what radio stations you can listen.

The engine would became the most important thing in the whole world because traffic designs what people would make to get from A to B.

That is the case with operating systems. They rule what software and what hardware you can run. If the software is not ported for the OS, you do not run it. If the OS is not ported to the CPU architecture, you do use the hardware.
If the java is not ported to the OS, you can not run any java applications.
If the software what your software has depencies does not have ported to wanted OS, your software does not work either.

And after all that, mix it with the open/closed source ideas, all the time changeable software versions and so on. It is just so big jungle that finding a path between it is so hard that you do not even want to know what you might miss or if there could be easier way to to trough it. Dec 01 2010
INIT is first non-OS process what is started. If you do not replace INIT with something else what meets user/device purposes.

Monolithic OS does not have a GUI, it does not have a command interpreter, it does not has system programs or system libraries.

OS is just very small part of the software system but it is most important part of all the software. It allows multitasking, secure program execution, resource management etc.

And your car analogy is weak. The starter motor is not part of the internal compustion engine (what people simply call car engine).
Neither is bootloader part of the OS, it just start its execution but after OS is executed, it takes control and does self-check and starts first process (usually INIT or variant) what then starts to read commands (scripts) what to do next and OS just operates that all the processes gets executed correctly by CPU.

The bootloader can be a smart (like GRUB) what can read different filesystems and find the OS from correct directories.
Or it can be a simple one (like LILO) what does not know anything about filesystems or directories, but only knows what blocks it need to read (where OS is) to RAM and then execute it.

Difference on those is that everytime the OS is updated (or moved on disk), the LILO needs to be updated so it has correct blocks in it.
GRUB does not need any updating.
OS does not start if someone does not start its execution. In embedded systems the firmware in hardware usually does it as there is no need for bootloader at all. But in personal computers and servers you usually need bootloader as BIOS/EFI does not know how to start OS execution or where it is at all. They only know how to read first 512 bytes from the media where they expect to find a bootloader. That in simple way.

And same thing is/was with car engines.
First you needed a person to twist the crank to get the engine itself started.
I bet you have seen at least movies where people flip airplanes propelles to get engine started or cranking in front of the car. Or even today if your car battery is emtpy and the electronic starter motor does not start, you can get your engine started by pushing the car (not possible on all models like CAT cars).

The starter motor is definetly not part of the engine. Neither is the car battery or windshield wiper part of the car engine, even that they (partically) are located to same space as the car engine.

The internal combustion engines work totally fine without starter motor or anything else. But the car purpose is flawed or not possible. The car purpose is to get people and gear moved and not to have engine running. The people needs car, car needs wheels, engine and other things. But car engine does not need wheels, gears or car radio to work.

We use today computers for many things. When we want to do something with computer we need first the hardware (monitor, keyboard, mouse, printer, scanner) and we need software (Application Programs) as those are the tools what we use.
We watch the monitor (text or graphics), we write by typing keys. We get text or graphics out with printer, we digitalize physical material to computer with scanner etc etc.

But to get all kind that working, we need lots of other things. Normal users do not know what is CPU or RAM. What is difference between RAM and SSD and how does those work.

Neither does normal users know what is the operating system, what is system library, what is system program, command interpreter or application programs and how those all work together.

Same way as many drivers does not know how the car works and what parts are for what purposes. Even some does not even know how to fill the gasoline/diesel tank or how to change the tire. Even more people have never even opened the engine hood. They have no idea how to change oils or even check the oils. Many does not even know how many volts does car engine have and so on.

But even if 90% of people does not know how the devices (or vehicles) work, it does not allow to lie people about it just to sell them more stuff (software or hardware etc). Neither it does not make the technology simpler or change technology to another kind when the user is basic, advanced or engineer.

The car engine functions does not get changed when the driver is race driver or when it is a homewife with three kids with her.

The operating system functions does not get changed when the user is secetery or when it is pro geek/engineer.

The car engine does not morph as wheel and pedals when the house wife drives the car.

The operating system does not morph as office suite or web browser or desktop when secetery use the computer.

The point is, the operating system technology has not change since 1960's. Operating systems have been coded better way, they has more features (API/ABI etc) than ever and many features has been improved. But the operating systems has not being morphed to system libraries, system programs, shellsm graphical user interfaces or application programs.

The amount of the software in the computer has grown, but the operating system functions has staid same. We have more complex application programs, we have fancier and easier software what draws users the interface to interact with the computer. Just to make our life easier.

Linux is by design monolithic what is the first and original operating system architecture. The roots for that architecture is from Multics from early 1960's. Even today many operating system is monolithic, but littlebit over half of the operating systems seems to be a server-client. And the Server-Client architecture design is somewhere early 1980's. It is almost 20 years newer than monolithic architecture.

And today, the other is almost 50 years old architecture while other is almost 30 years old architecture.

The operating systems what use those architectures, follows the same basic functions and designs as almost 50 and 30 years ago. The technology has not changed, it has just evolved to better and more secure.

Comparing Linux to Multics is like comparing i386 (the CPU for what the Linux was designed) and Intel Core i7.

The principles are same, the architecture is same but design has evolved. More cores, more cache and overall more complex by anyway.

The CPU has not changed from the silicon chip to whole computer case.

Neither has operating system changed from the monolithic or server-client architectures to whole software system. Even that software systems are marketed as operating systems. But it is not based to anykind computer science.
Dec 01 2010
That does not change at all that Linux is monolithic kernel == operating system. Linux architecture does not change mystically from monolithic > server-client when it starts running other software.

Windows 7 does not have MS-DOS on it at all.

MS-DOS series is dead, last version went away with Windows 95 when MS-DOS operating system parts were replaced by some of the Windows 95 parts.
Since Windows 95 the next generation of the MS-DOS has been Windows 9x series. (95, 98, 98SE, ME) what partically used MS-DOS code but in very different manner.

NT is the operating system in Windows 7. It the version number of the NT in windows 7 is 6.1. There is no MS-DOS at all in the Windows 7 or any earlier NT series as NT and MS-DOS/9x were totally different OS series.

NT 3.1
NT 3.5
NT 3.51
NT 4.0
NT 5.0 (Windows 2000) <- rebranding starts to hide the NT OS
NT 5.1 (Windows XP)
NT 5.2 (Windows Server 2003, 64bit edition, Home server)
NT 6.0 (Windows Vista/Server 2008)
NT 6.1 (Windows 7/Windows Server 2008 R2)

NT operating system has been used in Windows since 1993 to today.
It went trough very big change in project MinWin on what results you can see in Windows 7.

The NT operating system got next generation at 6.0 version. Thats why the hardware and software compatibly as well changed so much in Windows Vista.
Windows 7 can use same drivers and software as Windows Vista from many reasons, one is that the NT API/ABI were same and it did not change. In Project MinWin they only ripped NT operating system to bare bones, simply removed all the code what does not belong to the OS. They got NT so small and effective that it demands so much less hardware than earlier NT what were giants with their depencies.

Security has as well rised a lot when the NT has only OS parts and non-OS parts were ripped off, like IE browser parts and so on.

And since MinWin project they can actually now build NT operating system separately from rest of the Windows system.

Same way as Linux and all other Unix or Unix like operating systems has been designed and developed, separately from the system programs, system libraries, application programs and so on.

Linux does not need any other software to work. All other software top of it needs it to work. The dependencies goes from top to down, not from down to top (as it did in Windows before MinWin project).

Nov 30 2010
They have left the OS very widely open as it is just easier to direct to OS "there it is" way when you do not need to explain what kind OS it is. Nov 30 2010
So you want to know if software B needs software A, how was software A made in first place? Sep 13 2010
The Linux kernel is the operating system. There is no other "Linux" than the monolithic kernel.

The Linux distributions should not be called as "Linux" in the term of the OS. They are distributions and they all use Linux OS. Linux is specific OS.

It is like a car engine called Linux. And calling all cars from multiple manufacturers using that specific engine as the Linux is just wrong.

There is no "Linux's kernel" or "Kernel what Linux use". Linux is nothing what most people believe it is. Sep 13 2010
The question can you change motherboard or other main component (processor) without causing OS to work is not just about the OS architecture being monolithic or Server-Client (microkernel).

The monolithic architecture has the advantage that you can actually compile the whole OS single binary what includes all the device drivers and all the possible hardware support what the OS has. Like what most Linux distributors does to Linux.

But even then, you need to compile Linux by the way that it supports specific architecture. I am not totally sure is it possible today to compile Linux with "no-arch" way. What would make that single binary work on PPC or x86 or x86_64 architectures. So as far I know, you can not change the architecture so much. (You can swap i586 architecture to i686 architecture as x86 is backward compatible. But not otherwise. And to optimize the Linux OS, you need to compile it to support the wanted architecture.

The motherboard is different story, as you need the chipsets support. And the low-level functions are in all same. But you might end up having problems with sound, networking or USB if you do not have such functions support compiled.

But as those are not about "this or that", but more like you can just compile all of them to Linux if wanted, the one binary is not tied to specific hardware and the motherboard change is easy to do.

But if wanted to get most secure and stable OS, you compile Linux only with the functions what the device has. That way you drop off the functions what are not needed and what could have bugs. But there is a small trick as well.

Even that Linux is monolithic, it is same time a modular OS. Since 2.2 version the OS is been able to have some parts as modules. And even that Linux is possible (and usually it is) to get run from multiple binaries (Linux + its modules), the monolithic architecture still is such that the module is very tighly tied to the specific kernel version. And here comes the tricky part, it is important to understand the Linux as monolithic kernel what is mostly the drivers, but only very small part of the Linux code is actual kernel code (less than 1%) and every module is tied to that small part. What makes so that people can not just compile modules itself and then move them to other different version of the Linux OS.

But the modularity is superior to single binary idea, that we can unload the OS functions what are not needed, but when they are needed, we can just load them. And if the module crash, we can just unload it and load it back. With same manner as in Server-Client architecture, but not with all modules as they are not so well separated from the rest of the OS as with the Server-Client architecture where servers are in user-space and the microkernel alone in the kernel-space.

But the Server-Client architecture has the good feature as well, what is the module can be moved to other OS version, without knowing what version of the microkernel there is running. So the module is not needed to be compiled again for specific kernel functions what with the Linux is needed to do.

So in the end, when the admin who has knowledge of compiling Linux OS (as they always do) and they have information of the hardware, they compile Linux with such manner that there is no single un-needed driver or function in Linux. And that makes it faster, more stable and more secure. But every time hardware is changed, you need to compile Linux again. But if you just swap broken hardware to new one, it is not problem. But changing a motherboard A to motherboard B is problematic.

The same thing applies to Server-Client OS as well. You can swap hardware as long as you have the hardware support with it. Sep 13 2010
I think that as well but I give benefit of the doubt.

When 99% times you are heard the operating system working how it works in the Server-Client architecture, it is very difficult to learn that there are other OS architectures (and they are even older ones) what makes the OS work different way.

At some point people start to think "Hey, how kernel can be inside a kernel when the kernel is inside a OS", as for example from GNU what tolds that kernel is inside a kernel just to maintain a change to lie. Sep 09 2010
You could start by checking my signature links.
People talk about Linux as it is a microkernel. They do not know the OS architectures or the computer science history why OS was developed in first place.

For them the OS is just somekind black box or magic what does work and no one knows how it works or what it is.

OS is like a cars engine. We do know every part of the car engines if we just want to know. It is just so that car mechanics and engineers are those who know the parts and how the engine is build. But most drivers does not know almost anything else than the engine is under the hood.

But every driver can notice that wheel, pedals, seats or car radio are not part of the engine. Just by opening the hood and looking it.

Same thing does not work with software. We do not see the software at all. We see what the software draws to us. And with software we can draw amazing things. It is like we do not see how the camera takes the picture when we watch the picture, but we see the picture what was taken by the camera.

GNU fans have falsefied standards to hide the truth. They do not even have a logic to explain GNU's own operating system HURD. Sep 09 2010
"That's explain everything."

How it explains things? Sep 09 2010
Quote:You and your damn speeches. Noones reading that shit, I didn't. It's quite are wrong.

So all what you can do is stick your fingers to your ears, close your eyes and yell out loud "plaa plaa plaa plaa plaa plaa I am not listening, I am right, I AM RIGHT! PLAA PLAA PLAA YOU ARE IDIOT PLAA PLAA YOU ARE WRONG PLAA PLAA PLAA I AM NOT LISTENING...."

Quote:Linux is a kernel. Linus Torvalds created a KERNEL, not the GNU apps that run on it. Shut up, idiot

Who told that Linux is not a kernel? LINUX IS A KERNEL! But it is a whole operating system without needs of any GNU software. As you already told that you are wrong, GNU applications runs top of Linux. They are NOT PART of the Linux operating system. Or unless you can proof that GNU softwares are Linux modules...?

ps. When you learn to read... you only find out you are totally wrong and only a blind GNU fanatic who can not stand that someone else did great operating system what has not any parts from GNU project.

pps. Have a nice day in England/USA. Because England/USA is a great country! May 13 2010
I dont usually like to write long answers but this time I tried to keep it simple as possible. The topic is just not such what can be explained in few words.

Quote:Hehe, yeah I know, is just is there is a lot of opinions on what part of the operating system is actually a part of the operating system it seems....

Yes, there is lots of opinions. But very few really has knowledge. GNU fans have only opinions. They have a faith and believe what does not apply in computer science. But it can be used very easily without knowing technology.

In short analogy, it is like calling computer as HE/Asus, where first one is your electricity company and later is the computer manufacturer. You can not use your computer without electricity, right? So it is part of the computer. Because in the end that is the most important part in computer how it works. The electricity.

The operating system definition is very simple and clear. <i>The part of the software what runs in the kernel space or in supervisor mode</i>. Thats it. Nothing more complicated than that. It is so simple that most people miss it totally. They want the operating systems being very complex stuff, almost like a todays "Magic". They can not even believe that it is actually very easy to find the operating system because they are all build by the man.

Quote:...hell I could not draw a fine line in windows where the operating system stops and the application layer takes over...
...for me this is <b>a grey area</b> ;-)

It is actually very easy as well. But one biggest problems what comes for operating systems is that there are different architectures how to build them. And depending them, there are limited options what to include to them. What belongs to the operating system is always case by case. There is not just one single rule what belongs to it. There is just very clear definition but how you meet that definition is up the OS developers what they want actually include to it.

Example, Linux is very easy, as many other Unixes (or Unix clones), as it is a monolithic. It works alone in the kernel space in supervisor mode. Very simple and clear. Same thing goes for SunOS (OS in Solaris and OpenSolaris). Free/Net/OpenBSD's are same and AIX. There are many monolithic OS's.

With microkernels, the thing is more difficult if you have source closed. But the operating system in the Windows is the NT. MS has multiple different operating systems. They have not had just one single one. They are developing multiple different OS's same time. Few are very promising and very very interesting.

MS's operating systems are/were:

MS-DOS (PC-DOS what they bought), it was used as such to time when Windows 95 was released. Before that, Windows was just a desktop environment top of the OS. The OS could be MS-DOS, DR-DOS or other. There was different DE's available, example the GEM.

On Windows 95, the MS-DOS was still the OS, but part of it were replaced by the Windows itself. So part of the Windows became as part of the operating system. That was very huge problem time as everyone can remember how the Windows 95 crashed all the times. The OS was designed for single user and before Windows 95 it did not even have same functions as other OS's. It was very fragile.
The MS-DOS branch was ended in the Windows ME time. ME is the last version of MS-DOS generation and Windows 9x generation (the OS get different in Win95).

Then there are two other OS's what are still both in use. Other is very famous NT. It started as NT 3.0. It had many aspects from Unix, as real multiuser and multitask capabilities. The NT is Server-Client architecture operating system, use a microkernel and modules(servers). Among the time the functions what have included to operating system has changed by time to time when new big release has done (3.x > 4.x > 5.x > 6.x). Example the window manager has sometimes included to operating system and sometimes not. Trident and few other parts of Internet Explorer has belong to NT in some releases. But today the NT is on the version 6.1. It is the OS what is used in Windows 7. It has a microkernel structure (from Microsoft OS developers lessons by Mark Russinovich) and very modular and small memoryprint. Remember the project where Vista should have new "kernel". Well, the project idea was to place the NT to diet and get it small. It takes 40 Mb RAM now. It got removed all un-needed functions. Some of the modules(servers) got moved back to userspace and other changes. But it is the same NT as what was on 90's.

The third OS is the CE. It is distributed free (not open) for embedded systems. But it is as well used as the OS in the Windows Mobile Series 7. The CE is on that version 6.5.

So in the end. MS has two OS currently in markets. NT and CE. Under development there are Singularity (wrote in sing#) and Barrelfish, as two example. There are others as well.

What belongs to the OS in Windows 7 and what not? Very few things belongs to it anymore. But AFIRC, the Window manager was not anymore part of OS. The desktop is not at all part of it. The IE and its parts were removed as well. Explorer is neither part of OS anymore. DRM is part of the OS and many other low level functions. All libraries are removed from the NT operating system.

But it is not so important for avarage user to know exactly what belongs to OS and what not in Windows. Because it is a closed source system, you can not tweak it from "under the hood".

In Linux systems it is totally different thing, you can very easily just update the Linux OS. You can compile it with wanted functions and drivers. You can even in some of it distrobutions replace Linux with Hurd or kFreeBSD (the microkernel version of FreeBSD).

Almost for basic things what user need to first knowledge, is that what you see on the screen, the GRUB, the GDM, Gnome or any other such, are not parts of the operating system. And most important, there is no operating system called GNU/Linux. There is neither a operating system called GNU/Hurd. Because Hurd is part of GNU project and it is like calling GNU/GNU. GNU/Hurd does not exist either because the Hurd is the operating system and Hurd + other GNU software is more than just a operating system.

And when we add marketing to this. We end up to situation where everyone is trying to sell better product than others are offering. There is no stopping for lying or saying something what is not accurate. It is about clients and customers and only those matters, not the technical facts.
And for GNU fans, they are just fans of believe how great GNU is. (GNU project has great software etc. nothing wrong on that) But they want just blindly to believe that GNU did not fail on the most important goal of the project, developing the free operating system.

GNU fanatics can not stand that one Finnish student started own OS as hobby and it turn to be so successful that GNU's developers started to use it. It was PR catastrophic for GNU and especially for RMS. One 20 year old kid came and won everyone with right hand tied behind the back. One 20 year old kid who just graduated from normal university (RMS was in the MIT, he was believed to be a Guru) and he did something what worked right away.

Maybe one of the biggest problems was that Linus never allowed GNU (FSF) to take leadership of the Linux. Other developers known that Linus has the vision of the Linux and all needed personal features what made him great project leader without fanatics about freedom. Linus only cared the technical stuff while RMS is always first after ethics and then long after that about technology. Thats why HURD has never got even good microkernel and it still does not have drivers or any of the functions on servers what are needed to get it run in normal use. Even Minix is much greater state.

GNU/Linux fans can not understand the technology. It seems to be somekind fundamental flaw in their understanding. They can be good code writers, but their believes blinds them totally. They believe that A is B because B needs A. May 12 2010
KSplash/ML (Release 0.30) KDE 3.x Splash Screens
Score 57%
43 Dislikes
Oct 18 2001

The rotation feature is not as important as the resize feature.
But still at some widgets the rotation is very nice feature, like with image widgets or.... Yeah... you get the point. I just went trough all the widgets what I have installed (53!) and I did not find any other than the picture frame what I would like to rotate by look.

And I dont even use the rotation at most widgets as it is ugly effect on most of them.

It seems the anti-aliasing is done per widget, not by all widgets. As different widgets gives totally different results. Example:

On left side you can see binary clock, it is totally sharp and very well anti-aliased.
The CPU metering is OK but could be better (check the % lines).

The pastebin widget is as well very well anti-aliased (the icon on it is over-scaled but check the font).

On right side you can see calender widget, OK but could be much better. Check the color rectangles and the space between days. Should be like on binary clock!

The folder view, it is totall crap. Good if you can read any text from it! (please, check the first folder on it the "grub". Under the folder there is a text "grub" with same font and same size as the folderview has. But the other is done with GIMP and rotated + applied a shadow effect. Even that font looks bigger and sharper than the folder view widget has.

The third is the picture frame and the photo looks good on it.

----------Bottom line------------

The rotation is very fancy effect and can be used to create a nice desktop. It is not widely used but it is something nice. So I would keep it if there would be a easy way to have a 5, 10 and 15 degree rotation possibilityes, instead just the free rotation. There is somewhere a wish to have as well a grid for widgets so people could resize widgets to be exactly same sized at wanted positions.

And even that the rotation function is not so much used, it really allows users to express themselfs at one artistic way. Even that if it is used by 1% of the widgets and 1% of the users.

I think the rotation/resize problems could be worked out if we just get change to set wanted widget sized by pixels and we can rotate widgets freely and with specific degrees and everything would be very nicely anti-aliased! Nov 17 2010
Flatbed Cursors 0.4 Cursors
Score 76%
24 Dislikes
Aug 02 2017
I really much love the "Orange Huge" version because it is great for screencast. But I dont like the transparency of the cursor. Is there change to get officially (by you) a opaque versions or should I do myself such?

What really is so awesome at this cursor set is the amount of different sizes and especially the busy cursor (huge ball with small hole on it!) Nov 17 2010
akm-video-qt 0.7.8 final Video
Score 54%
46 Dislikes
Nov 06 2010
People! Remember that this kind scripts does not need to be in the system side. Just copy the servicemenu to ~/.kde4/share/services/ServiceMenus/

And then the binary to ~/bin directory.

That way you protect that the system can not get affected by anykind malware in the future.

(This is not saying this would have, but precausion is just for being safe!) Nov 04 2010
KDEWallpaper Wallpapers KDE Plasma
Score 40%
60 Dislikes
Oct 23 2001
Oh why you Rob then make own Bespin theme and not copy the Windows 7 style? ;-)

Okay, lets put joking aside now. Really... no more joking.

We can make own styles easily what looks slick and good, like your bespin style. Problem might be that people still expects GNOME or KDE Plasma Desktop/Netbook to be like a Windows or Mac OS X. Or get same thing with XFCE4 or LXDE etc.

It is OK if single person wants something similar and applies a Mac OS X or Windows 7 cloned style, but then again, comes the problem when the user shows it to others and non-users gets the believe that "Linux" is just a cheap copy.

It is nice thing that sites like and (etc) exist so people could post their screenshots and information what is needed to get desktop look like that.

Sometimes I find out screenshots what looks very crappy, like the ones what were in use at 2000. Very bright colors and as you said "the matrix screensaver" thing. Sep 30 2010
A wise Linux users do not hate other OS's. They love freedom and possibilities. But they ignore the closed source operating systems (NT, CE) and they spread words from the alternatives for those who does not know suchs exists.

A wise Linux user does not care so much about the themes what windowmanagers or desktop environments (or Desktop Shells) looks like. As they are not part of the Linux operating system.

A good open source follower diggs the truth from the politics and marketing. And tries to keep everyones possibilities open as possible.
And tries to maintain a balance between the possibilities. Supporting the other open fellows when they are in problems and wise versa. Trusting to teamwork and not to competition.

A wise Linux user does not neither priest about one distribution being better and over others. But always suggest to use other distributions and courages others to find distribution what suites best to them.

The theme is just like a clothes on you. They do not tell who you actually are. They are just like a tribe markings. Sep 17 2010
Cryptsetup Plasmoid 0.1 Plasma 4 Widgets
Score 56%
44 Dislikes
Sep 12 2010
How does this mount the specific device? Like does it use UUID or what? Sep 12 2010
Elegant Gnome Pack 1.0 GTK2 Themes
Score 75%
25 Dislikes
Aug 02 2017
Does not matter because Maverick is still a beta. And it is not wise at all to relay to engines from GIT and not the stable release. Unless wants to limit the userbase size to one (or few) distributions and those who are willing to learn how to compile from GIT. Sep 06 2010
Actually I installed it before commenting for several different distributions to test.
And ubuntu developers does not use GIT versions from engines, they use stable or unstable versions. Themes what demands to user to download latest GIT version instead using the last stable is not good at all. That I have told many many times for Ubuntu developers and packagers and they agree. Sep 06 2010
Too difficult to install.

All themes should be designed in such way that end-user would not need to compile them. We can not expect users to have development environments set up just to get a theme. All GIT versions of the engines should be limited as well.

Fonts should be possible install just by copying them to correct folder.
Icons and themes by drag and dropping to theme manager. Wallpapers by choosing from folder etc etc.

Good looking theme but if end user need to spend hunting down precompiled packages or source packages the theme has failed.

If wanted to keep a development bracnh (depency to GIT version of the engine) then it should be renamed as such. Sep 05 2010
Ayo 73 epreuve rentré (snoopy) Wallpaper Other
Score 56%
44 Dislikes
Oct 18 2001
Yeah, and as PCLinuxOS use Mandriva Control Center from Mandriva Linux, people get great GUI tools as well. Rolling Release + MCC = Rocks.

Those who want to stay on 6 months release Mandriva is best choise for desktops.
And those who wants just rolling release, Arch Linux is then best choise. Sep 05 2010
Linux on Wall (Blue) 1.1 Wallpaper Other
Score 66%
34 Dislikes
Sep 05 2010
I have added a version of this blue wallpaper without text "Linux" on it. The link is in the download options.

All other versions (4) you can find by searching the "Linux on wall". Sep 05 2010
I have added a version of this blue wallpaper without text "Linux" on it. The link is in the download options.

All other versions (4) you can find by searching the "Linux on wall". Sep 05 2010
kppp oxygen Individual Icons/-sets
Score 54%
46 Dislikes
Sep 01 2010
Only KDE Workspace program icons are chromatic. All normal application programs (like kppp) are colored. Sep 01 2010
Skulpture 0.2.4 Various Plasma Styles
Score 74%
26 Dislikes
Jul 31 2017
Very nice to hear that!
Hopefully someday it will come as option to GUI settings. So those who can not or do not know how to edit source coude could get it changed as well if they dont like it either.

I am now very happy :-D Jul 30 2010
I like the look when it is sharp. But only thing what I dislike is the progress bars look. Could there be a option to have a typical kind progressbar, from left to right? It is easier to read for some peope, even that the style is otherwise most fit for them. Jul 26 2010
Txt Reader 0.6.6 Office
Score 63%
37 Dislikes
Nov 27 2014
Could it be possible to add a screenshot with english menu so people would understand it better?

You can start KDE (Qt) application with other language by going to Help menu. Jul 13 2010
Minitunes 1.0 Audio
Score 79%
21 Dislikes
Jul 04 2011
I just installed this to Arch Linux (from AUR) and I must say that the UI is really cool. The idea to have 1:1 format artwork (artists, albums etc) is just so great that it resembles more to use ordinary music collection from the shelf than in digital format. Exactly what it should be as well.

One thing just made me sad is that there is no support for CD number metadata but forces to add misinformation to metadata to get different CD's. What causes Albums what has multiple CD's to been seen as multiple albums and not CD's.

The UI really looks nice and this is more what I would expect from Amarok 2 database. (It does not either follow the CD number what makes it useless for audiobooks and multi CD albums.)
Jul 13 2010
RecordItNow 0.8.1 Video
Score 85%
15 Dislikes
Mar 05 2010
Is the Testatur-monitor tied to the main window or can it be separated?

I would love to see something like the KWin effect showing the pressed shortcuts. Or plasmoid what we could place to panel and it could show the shortcuts (like Ctrl+Shift+A) on it. Then it could be placed to own panel what be placed top of windowses and get it been visible all the times without main window of this application! Jun 27 2010
Bakaar 0.3 Video
Score 66%
34 Dislikes
Dec 29 2010
OSD does look really nice. Would it be too much asked that you would suggest the OSD for Bangarang mediaplayer? It would need this kind and help for them would be needed as well. Even just that you would contact them and suggest to check your code. Jun 16 2010
Glassified MacOS (left/right) 1.03 Beryl/Emerald Themes
Score 74%
26 Dislikes
Aug 15 2010
I would as well like to get that wallpaper :) Jun 07 2010