indywiki
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Description:

indywiki aims to explore different ways of browsing the wikipedia universe! It need python and pyqt4 and is developed at http://indywiki.sourceforge.net
Last changelog:

10 years ago

Main features include navigation via text links, in addition to image links, visual clues for distinguishing between native images (images in the current page) and non-native images (images in pages linked to and from the current page) and changes that make the program faster and more customisable!

leviathan89

9 years ago

Wikipedia is for teenage euro trash who have smoked a little too much hash and have the false sense that they are enlightened. It is full of factual errors, grammatical errors, flat out lies, vandalism, propoganda, stupidity and mindless trivia.

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mgogoulos

9 years ago

Indywiki now uses Launchpad to handle internalization. Please help us translate Indywiki to your native language, by translating a few strings (https://translations.launchpad.net/indywiki/)! Launchpad is a very intuitive way to deal with translations and is being used by many big projects, eg Ubuntu Linux.

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Coblestone

9 years ago

I cannot believe how many of you fools take wikipedia seriously.

Read this article:

http://news.scotsman.com/education/Falling-exam--passes-blamed.4209408.jp

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logixoul

9 years ago

I wanted to try the new version, but there's some python problems (I run Python 2.5.1 on openSUSE). I had to install python-setuptools, so I did. Now `sudo python setup.py install` says:
Quote:running install
error: invalid Python installation: unable to open /usr/lib/python2.5/config/Makefile (No such file or directory)
What gives?

Maybe you should also outline this stuff in the readme.

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mgogoulos

9 years ago

#python setup.py install runs well here on Ubuntu. I quickly googled the message you get and I saw somewhere the following:

"You need to install the development package for python. It should be called
python2.5-devel or something similar. "

seems it's a python issue , but will be included in the Readme file (please drop a line if this works.

Cheers

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logixoul

9 years ago

Yep, python-devel resolved that error. Then I got this one:
Quote:Checking .pth file support in /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/
error: can't create or remove files in install directory

The following error occurred while trying to add or remove files in the
installation directory:

[Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/test-easy-install-25908.pth'

The installation directory you specified (via --install-dir, --prefix, or
the distutils default setting) was:

/usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/

This directory does not currently exist. Please create it and try again, or
choose a different installation directory (using the -d or --install-dir
option).

So I ran
Quote:sudo mkdir -p /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/
and the install worked.

Surely setup.py should've handled that for me :p

So, I ran indywiki, a window appeared and immediately disappeared with a SIGSEGV. What do I do?

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mgogoulos

9 years ago

logixoul,

you get the SIGSEGV when you run the program through src/indywiki directory, or after you've installed it with setup.py? I need more information on how this happens to see what I can do. I've been thoroughly testing indywiki on a openSuse 10.2 64 bit system and didn't have any problem so far (I run the program through src/indywiki, I haven't installed it on that system, although I'm not sure if this is related to the problem)

Regards

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logixoul

9 years ago

The crash happens both when running from src/indywiki and the installed one. I dunno how to debug this...
this is a 32bit system and my PyQt is 4.3 as required.
another python app, skencil, works fine.

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m0nk

9 years ago

Hey,
on openSUSE try this:
python setup.py build
python setup.py install --prefix=/usr
So everything gets installed under /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages, because /usr/local/lib/python(anyversion) is not in $PYTHONPATH.

Greetings
m0nk

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logixoul

9 years ago

this app comes as a pleasant surprise, as it's really a breeze to use =)

you could replace the GO, BACK, NEXT buttons with icon-only qtoolbuttons. of course, since you've opted to use plain qt, you can't just use KIcon for nice icons. you'll have to ship them with the package.

also, a cmake-based install system would be nice. plus a .desktop file. ping me if you get stuck with cmake ;)

the image grid would look a lot better if you make style the pushbuttons a bit. like, make them darkgrey and rectangular or something. hint: QWidget::setStyleSheet()

the 'remove progressbar' is useless, and 'choose wikipedia site' would be better off integrated into the main layout as a combobox. in fact, the menubar is pointless for miniapps like indywiki; you might as well ditch it.

your layouting mostly sucks, the margins are all off. try to line things up a bit.

keep it up =)

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dep63G

9 years ago

leviathan, you're such a disgrace...I was wondering what the **** you're doing on this site, but now I'm convinced either you're 100% loser or you're getting payed by Micro$oft... People like you will NEVER understand how the open source model WORKS, and how it affects software, education, amongst other things...

How dare you write to someone "your software is crappy and you're trying to sell it here" just because you don't like it? Who needs your miserable opinion? These people spend their own time working on things that can be used for free by anyone. Present us your work, show us your contributions, and don't judge others, especially when the only thing you have to give is your LAME opinion...

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leviathan2

9 years ago

What is disgraceful is the quality of indywiki and about 99% of the other software on this site. Just because it is open source or free does not give the author some kind of moral carte blanche to steal or pirate from other sources.

What these people do is look for a 15 or 20 year old windows program that has gone opensource. Spend 30 minutes messing with the code and attach their name to it. Then the rest of us are supposed to hail them as gurus or programming gods. They are nothing but cheap ripoff artists.

Your comment is so typical of a linux user. By your logic, if you don't like something about linux, you must be working for Microsoft. (As if an MS employee wouldn't have better things to do) Are all you people conspiracy theory whack jobs or what?

There is no competition between Linux and Microsoft. Linux has about 1% of the desktop market worldwide. MS doesn't care about you or your crappy knockoff software.

If all you want on here is people to blow smoke up the asses of these so called "programmers" then you'll continue to get weak utilities like this one.

I use linux as a hobby. I run it about 95% of the time. But I use windows and mac also. It's not a team sport. You don't have to pick a side. Grow up.

The quality of most "open source" software is terrible. and I'm not going to pat someone on the back for a crappy job.

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francophone

9 years ago

So true. I am tired of how some pretentious Linux community members hide behind the mantra of open source somehow makes it noble. I say a spade is a spade. If the software is no good, then tell the truth. Kissing butt is not going to get these projects anywhere.

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logixoul

9 years ago

Fuck off, moron.

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francophone

9 years ago

I'm curious about one thing here. You preach not to judge others, but why then is there a vote for this app (bad or good) link at the top of the page?

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stanhirsch

9 years ago

Firstly I would like to say that it's nice that you made an effort here but this software is just too buggy and amateurish.

And I know some of you won't want to hear it but I have to agree somewhat with Leviathan as to the reliability of the information on wikipedia. Wikipedia has a less than scholarly track record.

Maybe this software should be filed under "EduTAINment".

With wikipedia, anonymous average "joes" with no credentials and no writing skills are allowed to publish anything they want and espouse whatever slanted philosophy or propaganda they wish.

I would hardly consider that a "reliable" source of information.

For example: history on wikipedia is being rewritten by 16 coffee house socialists. Vandals attack articles constantly. Facts are not checked. Cited references are frequently dubious.

I could list a hundred other problems with it but I digress.

Now this isn't necessary a problem with your indywiki program but it's akin to installing a broken processor on your brand new motherboard.

Couldn't you have used an actual reputable source like world book, encarta or brittanica?

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mgogoulos

9 years ago

this is open source software, a person or a team releases an early version of a program, and developers are welcome to contribute code if they find the project interesting. It helps most when people say 'fix this thing, or add this feature', rather that 'this software is too buggy'. Also if you notice this program is labeled as in beta version.

Agree with the one about Edutainment. No such category here though!

I've been using Wikipedia for > 2 years time and am constantly being impressed by the information found there and accuracy of it. I have met the phaenomenas that you mention very FEW times. It's not that easy as you say for a simple 'joe' to affect the quality of an article. True, on some articles one can vandalize or delete content, but it get's fixed soon, on internet real time, as hundreds of people might be watching and editing the article. Apart from this there are mechanisms that lock frequently vandalized articles. As an example try to edit a highly objective article, like 'George Bush', or 'Socialism' and see if you can make it.

This dispute can keep on for ages and I repeat this is not the correct place to do it, don't you think so?

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leviathan2

9 years ago

stanhirsch,

Don't listen to mgogoulos. He's just trying to toot his own horn here.

His claim to have only come across inaccurate articles a FEW times is either disingenuous or he is a complete fool.

Anyone with half a brain can see that thousands of the articles on wikipedia are tagged with warnings about "original research", "quality standards", "unverified claims", etc.

For example, take a look at the entry for the restaurant "McDonalds" or the comedian "Dane Cook".

The fact that many articles are now locked is not something to brag about but instead a testiment to the dangers of having "average joe" write the information.

I agree with you. Most all articles have the slant of opinion as though some marijuana-smoking euro teenager wrote them.

Yes, a few high profile entries are now locked but THOUSANDS of others are not.

And who would even know which of these entries contained false information at the time that YOU read it? (Not when someone, if ever, gets around to correcting it!)

Additionally, many articles are simply plagerized from other sources.

There is no control and no accountability except for the few anecdotal examples mentioned by the apologists.

This brings me around to Indywiki. It seems typical of the linux community to steal information from other sources and claim it as your own. Indywiki is nothing more than a buggy reader that 'steals' all of it's information from a source that is both unreliable, and in some instances 'stolen' from somewhere else.

All all Linux users theives? Is there anything original on here?

Why is everything on this site a sad ripoff or port of some 10 year old windows/mac program?

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stanhirsch

9 years ago

Firstly I would like to say that it's nice that you made an effort here but this software is just too buggy and amateurish.

And I know some of you won't want to hear it but I have to agree somewhat with Leviathan as to the reliability of the information on wikipedia. Wikipedia has a less than scholarly track record.

Maybe this software should be filed under "EduTAINment".

With wikipedia, anonymous average "joes" with no credentials and no writing skills are allowed to publish anything they want and espouse whatever slanted philosophy or propaganda they wish.

I would hardly consider that a "reliable" source of information.

For example: history on wikipedia is being rewritten by 16 coffee house socialists. Vandals attack articles constantly. Facts are not checked. Cited references are frequently dubious.

I could list a hundred other problems with it but I digress.

Now this isn't necessary a problem with your indywiki program but it's akin to installing a broken processor on your brand new motherboard.

Couldn't you have used an actual reputable source like world book, encarta or brittanica?

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mgogoulos

9 years ago


thanks for the comment. about the second issue, indeed there has to be provided a better way of choosing which Wikipedia site to use! I'm trying to find that, any ideas are welcome!

leviathan2, you're out of the topic, as always. maybe start visiting a religious site instead of a software one?

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pvt14

9 years ago

Very convenient educational program, and quite easy to use, too. And the fact that some people question Wikipedia's reliability does not mean that all people shouldn't be free to access it and judge for themselves what's right and what's wrong.
I have some small problems with Indywiki. When I click "View->Remove Progress bar" (progress bar is removed) and then try turning it back on by clicking again "View->Remove Progress bar", Indywiki returns "QStatusBar::removeWidget(): Widget not found." I am using Python 2.5.1 and Qt 4.3.2 with the Oxygen GUI style, if that matters. Also, I think there should be a better way of choosing which Wikipedia site to use, outside of the limited list already present.

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leviathan2

9 years ago

By that same logic, some people thought slavery should be legal. Some people though jews should be sent to Auschwitz.

Some people are idiots. What they "think" about wikipedia does NOT make it a reliable source of information.

It has been PROVEN to be an UNRELIABLE source of information.

That is a FACT. Not an OPINION.

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mgogoulos

9 years ago

leviathan,

I'm fed up of reading your comments about wikipedia's reliability. You wrote it once and I think it's enough, this is not the site for discussing all these! If you have a suggestion or comment on indywiki please state it, otherwise don't distract us anymore.

your initial quote is copy/pasted here, so you don't have to repeat it again.

(WIkipedia is not a reliable source of anything but merely a posting place for personal opinion)

(no comments. it's your personal opinion, and i can respect that)

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leviathan2

9 years ago

My comment about indywiki is that it relies on a useless and disreputable source for it's information. Thus making indywiki useless except for retards who believe anything they read on the internet. And it is definately NOT an EDUCATION application.

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MayC23

9 years ago

The only retard I can see is YOU! I really don't think YOU are in the position to decide for others. Linux is about choice and freedom, at least for me. I have no problem with crtic comments. But your comments are offending. So please shut the .... up!

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10 years ago

Main features include navigation via text links, in addition to image links, visual clues for distinguishing between native images (images in the current page) and non-native images (images in pages linked to and from the current page) and changes that make the program faster and more customisable!

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